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betsy, daniel, bill strickland and jeffrey toobin. betsy, he said he's going to spend as long as it takes to make amends. could he ever regain you and your husband's trust? >> who knows. i mean, this is -- you know, again, it's a range of emotions because we talked to him on the phone. he seemed sincere, and then he goes on national tv and stuff comes out of his mouth, and i was just -- he's cherry picking what the truth is, and i don't -- and he's trying to justify why some people did some stuff, and he's trying to protect a lot of people, and he doesn't -- he just doesn't get -- he does not get the hurt that he's caused people. he's crying -- not crying but saying $75 million, he lost that and it's never going to come back. well, maybe he can take one ever oprah's life lessons. she can hire him and she is advertise that. i don't think he gets it. i don't think he gets it. and so i don't know. i mean, i know this is a process and i know it's baby steps, and i know he's going to make mistakes, but it just seems like this is not going
betsy, daniel, bill strickland and jeffrey toobin. betsy, he said he's going to spend as long as it takes to make amends. could he ever regain you and your husband's trust? >> who knows. i mean, this is -- you know, again, it's a range of emotions because we talked to him on the phone. he seemed sincere, and then he goes on national tv and stuff comes out of his mouth, and i was just -- he's cherry picking what the truth is, and i don't -- and he's trying to justify why some people did...
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so is betsy andreu. whose husband was a teammate. tonight armstrong says he's spoken with her on the phone and her husband. she joins the rest of our panel ahead. did she hear what she wanted to hear when he called. he also would not answer oprah's questions about what they actually spoke about. we'll talk to her about that next. new nectresse. the 100% natural no-calorie sweetener made from the goodness of fruit. new nectresse. sweetness naturally. >>> welcome back. breaking news. more on tonight's lance armstrong interview with oprah winfrey. his admission to oprah that he doped for years. the interview just wrapped up. the doping starting in the mid-'90s. not stopping until, he says, 2005. all the years of denials he told her were just one big lie. she grilled him on the specifics, which banned drugs he used and the difference they made. listen. >> did you ever take banned substances to enhance your cycling performance? >> yes. >> yes or no, was one of those banned substances epo? >> yes. >> did you ever blood dope or use blood tr
so is betsy andreu. whose husband was a teammate. tonight armstrong says he's spoken with her on the phone and her husband. she joins the rest of our panel ahead. did she hear what she wanted to hear when he called. he also would not answer oprah's questions about what they actually spoke about. we'll talk to her about that next. new nectresse. the 100% natural no-calorie sweetener made from the goodness of fruit. new nectresse. sweetness naturally. >>> welcome back. breaking news....
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and i'm laying down on that one. >> was betsy lying? >> i'm just not -- i'm going to put than one down. and i don't want to -- she asked me and i asked her not to talk about -- >> what you said? >> the details of the call. it was a confidential, personal conversation. it was 40 minutes long. i spoke to frankie as well. >> is it well with the two of you? have you made peace? >> oh -- no. >> okay. >> because they've been hurt too badly. and a 40-minute conversation isn't enough. and -- >> yes, because you repeatedly characterized her as crazy. called her other horrible things. >> well, and i -- i did call her crazy. >> you did. >> i did. i did. >> if you were to go back and look at all the tapes of things you said over the years about betsy -- >> and i -- i think she would be okay with me saying this, but i'm going to take the libertiy to say it. i said, listen. i called you crazy. i called you a bitch. i called you all these things, but i never called you fat. >> that's one of the things -- >> she thought i said you were a fat crazy bitc
and i'm laying down on that one. >> was betsy lying? >> i'm just not -- i'm going to put than one down. and i don't want to -- she asked me and i asked her not to talk about -- >> what you said? >> the details of the call. it was a confidential, personal conversation. it was 40 minutes long. i spoke to frankie as well. >> is it well with the two of you? have you made peace? >> oh -- no. >> okay. >> because they've been hurt too badly. and a...
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and for betsy, that was a huge issue. and a huge disappointment that this was an opportunity for him to come clean, to actually tell the truth. and she feels he certainly failed. and i think everyone on our panel feels the same way. >> it was interesting. in so many of the moments that we saw, i mean, whether people obviously don't -- people didn't like his tone but he answered. he said i'm just going to let that lie. i'm not going to talk about that one moment. it sort of stood out from other parts of the interview. did she feel that way, too? >> well, yeah, but, i mean, i think there were many inconsistencies she points to and that our entire panel point to. let me play some of the exchange i had with betsy a few moments ago. >> i'm really disappointed. he owed it to me. you owed it to me, lance, and you dropped the ball. after what you've done to me, what you've done to my family and you couldn't own up to it. and now we're supposed to believe you? you have one chance at the truth. this is it. if he's not going to tell
and for betsy, that was a huge issue. and a huge disappointment that this was an opportunity for him to come clean, to actually tell the truth. and she feels he certainly failed. and i think everyone on our panel feels the same way. >> it was interesting. in so many of the moments that we saw, i mean, whether people obviously don't -- people didn't like his tone but he answered. he said i'm just going to let that lie. i'm not going to talk about that one moment. it sort of stood out from...
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it's pathetic, betsy. i thought you were a better person than that. >> betsy andreu provided the voicemail to the "new york daily news" as evidence of the threats and intimidation she says they suffered. and then there's greg lemond, the only american to win the world's most grueling race before armstrong went on his string of seven straight wins. the relationship between the two men was anything but close, especially after lemond questioned armstrong's association with a controversial italian doctor named michaeli ferrari. frankie andreu said armstrong was clearly upset at lemond's comments and in an affidavit andreu said, "i recall lance saying words to the effect of who does greg think he is talking about ferrari? i'm going to take him down." and he did. armstrong had great influence with the bike sponsor trek, which dropped its support of the lemond brand, damaging lemond's bike business. armstrong also intimidated his critics and rivals during competition. in the 2004 tour de france armstrong comforta
it's pathetic, betsy. i thought you were a better person than that. >> betsy andreu provided the voicemail to the "new york daily news" as evidence of the threats and intimidation she says they suffered. and then there's greg lemond, the only american to win the world's most grueling race before armstrong went on his string of seven straight wins. the relationship between the two men was anything but close, especially after lemond questioned armstrong's association with a...
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it's pathetic, betsy. i thought you were a better person than that. >> betsy andreu provided the voicemail to the new york daily new news as evidence of the threats and intimidation she says they suffered. then there's greg lamand, the only american to win the most grueling race before armstrong went on his string of seven straight wins. the relationship between the two men was anything but close, especially after lamande questioned armstrong's association with a controversial italian doctor named mikali ferrari. he says armstrong was clearly upset at l machlt a. who does greg think he is, talking about ferrari? i'm going to take him down. and he did. armstrong had great influence with the bike sponsored trekk which dropped its support of lamond's brand, damaging his bike business. he also intimidated his critics and rivals during competition. in the 2004 tour de france, armstrong comfortably held the race's overall lead but surprised everyone when he chased down filipo cimioni. why? only to punish him and
it's pathetic, betsy. i thought you were a better person than that. >> betsy andreu provided the voicemail to the new york daily new news as evidence of the threats and intimidation she says they suffered. then there's greg lamand, the only american to win the most grueling race before armstrong went on his string of seven straight wins. the relationship between the two men was anything but close, especially after lamande questioned armstrong's association with a controversial italian...
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wife has said it was all for lance, everybody did all of this doping for lance and with frankie, and betsy,is wife, just the way they spoke about lance with the fear that they had about him and the doubt they had that he would do any of these picture rack louse things without drugs really hammered it into me that lance must have been using something, in the only was he using something, but he was using intimidation and manipulation and lies and cheating and all of those things to make himself into one of the most famous athletes in history. >> rose: daniel? >> well, i lived to report lance armstrong's war, i moved to the town of in northern spainis training base and when you are in that atmosphere, you sense what juliet is talking about in the oxygen, people behaved strangely and, you know, this as a reporter, you can tell when something is up, and the way people acted around him they used to call him batman on the team he would come and go at strange times, meeting the doctor and knowing what is going on, with each additional fact you get this picture, but it is hult unprovable until the
wife has said it was all for lance, everybody did all of this doping for lance and with frankie, and betsy,is wife, just the way they spoke about lance with the fear that they had about him and the doubt they had that he would do any of these picture rack louse things without drugs really hammered it into me that lance must have been using something, in the only was he using something, but he was using intimidation and manipulation and lies and cheating and all of those things to make himself...
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but andreu was ostracized after he and his fiancee-- now-wife-- betsy, testified in 2005 that armstrong acknowledged using performance-enhancing drugs. >> for my wife and i, we've been attacked and ripped apart by lance and all of his people and all his supporters, repeatedly, for a long time. i just wish they wouldn't have been so blind and opened up their eyes earlier to all the signs that indicated there was deception there, so that we wouldn't have had to suffer as much. and it's not only us, i mean he's ruined a lot of people's lives. >> suarez: regulators from the official bodies that police cycling are also speaking out. the head of the world anti- doping agency-- david howman-- has demanded armstrong make his confession under oath. he told the associated press, "he's got to follow a certain course. that is not talking to a talk show host." armstrong vehemently denied doping for more than a decade, insisting he'd been tested hundreds of times and never failed a test. now, the international cycling union has commissioned an investigation into claims that positive test samples were
but andreu was ostracized after he and his fiancee-- now-wife-- betsy, testified in 2005 that armstrong acknowledged using performance-enhancing drugs. >> for my wife and i, we've been attacked and ripped apart by lance and all of his people and all his supporters, repeatedly, for a long time. i just wish they wouldn't have been so blind and opened up their eyes earlier to all the signs that indicated there was deception there, so that we wouldn't have had to suffer as much. and it's not...